A Disturbing Story from the Chronicle of Higher Education by Nortman Markowitzz

 

I am forwarding below a very disturbing article from the Chronicle of Hgher Education on an arrest in upstate New York.  I know greatly respect both the author of the article, Stacey Patton, and the victim of the arrest, Leigh-Anne Francis.  Both are  African-American women  and both are Ph.Ds in history from Rutgers University.  Stacey is also the author of a powerful auto biography, The Mean Old Yesterday and as a journalist for the Chronicle of Higher Education has been its most consistent innovative and progressive voice.  Leigh-Anne was a grader for me in a number of courses and my personal relationship with her was and is especially close. Her doctoral dissertation was "Burning Down the Cage:  African-American Women's Prison Communities in Auburn, New York, 1893-1933"  She is today an assistant profressor with a dual appointment to the departments of history and African/Latino Studies at t he State University of New York, Oneonta, the area where the events occured.

 What is especially galling to me about the story is the hostile commentary below to th   Chronicle.  I decided to put it in rather than omit it.  My supsicion is that the hostile commentators,  possibly in the lower echelons of a crisis ridden and declining public university system, are uneasy with the fact that people like Stacey and Leigh-Anne exist, not to mention the fact that they are doing productive work and are successful.   Perhaps some of our readers would like to comment on the article 

Norman Markowitz

 

Senior Enterprise Reporter at The Chronicle of Higher Education

When Diversity Doesn't Come Easy

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April 21, 2014

Image: Leigh-Anne Francis

Leigh-Anne Francis wishes she had listened to her pregnant wife, who begged her not to leave the house that night. She could have been at home putting the finishing touches on her syllabi and lecture notes, instead of handcuffed to a bench at a local police station.

It was August 29, 2013, the night before the start of the fall semester at the State University of New York College at Oneonta, a midsize public college in the picturesque foothills of the Catskill Mountains. Francis, a Jamaican-born professor fresh out of graduate school, was prepping for her first lectures when she decided to make a late run to pick up Thai take-out. She was excited about starting her new tenure-track job in black studies and U.S. history at Oneonta—one she had landed months before earning a Ph.D. in history from Rutgers University. (I studied history at Rutgers, too, and I took a few courses with Francis.) Francis and her wife Jenny, who is white, had moved from northern New Jersey just six days earlier.

At around 9:30 p.m., as Francis was heading home with her food, a pair of state troopers pulled her over. She had been driving 41 miles per hour, over the speed limit of 30, near an underpass on State Highway 28. As one trooper ran her license through a computer, her anxiety grew. Because Francis wears suits and ties and is often misidentified as a black man, she expects to be racially profiled and stopped by the police.

A long 30 minutes passed. Another police vehicle pulled up. “This doesn’t look good,” Francis mumbled to herself.

When the trooper approached her car again, Francis says, he ordered her to step outside. Francis says she didn’t know why. “I panicked,” she says. “Without thinking, I locked the car door. It was an entirely futile attempt to protect myself. In retrospect I know it was a stupid move.”

It was only later, she says, that she was told why the traffic stop had turned more serious: Her license had been suspended in New York State, due to a 2002 ticket for driving with a broken headlight. Francis had failed to appear in court to respond to a summons for that violation. The summons, she said, must have gotten lost in the mail. (Dennis R. Nayor, chief of the Oneonta Police Department, said he was not aware of the details of Francis’s arrest, and officials with the New York State Police Department declined to comment.)

By that time, Francis says, the officer had dragged her from the car and tightly cuffed her. Francis says she tried to plead with him, crying as she told him, “I am a faculty member at SUNY-Oneonta.”

She hoped that explanation would demonstrate a valid connection to the area. “It was my way of telling the trooper that he didn’t have to be scared of me or hurt my body. I hoped it would keep me safe.”

She was wrong. According to Francis, the trooper responded by saying that he didn’t care that she was a professor.

A College Town’s Complex History

But there are plenty of people at SUNY-Oneonta who do care. The institution, like many universities with relatively few professors of color, is attempting to diversify its faculty. But doing so can be a stiff challenge, says Nancy Kleniewski, the university’s president.

“There’s a selection factor,” she says. “Some people don’t want to work in a rural area.”

On the one hand, today’s tight academic job market helps Oneonta out. Many new Ph.D.’s like Francis are taking positions in regions of the country where they wouldn’t otherwise expect to live—areas in which their race, ethnicity, or gender presentation might make them stand out.

On the other hand, incidents like a new professor’s run-in with the police can be serious setbacks. That’s especially true at SUNY-Oneonta, an institution whose history still plays into present-day hiring discussions.

The university made national headlines in September 1992, when an elderly woman said she was assaulted in her home, near campus, by a young black man. A dean gave police a list of black and Hispanic male students, and in the days following, police interrogated about 85 black male students and many more town residents. Some students were pulled from classrooms, dorm rooms, and public buses for interrogation. In the end, no arrests were made.

The student outrage and the impact on the college town were profound. Many students transferred to other institutions or dropped out. Enrollments declined over the next five years. More than two decades later, many faculty of color say they remain wary. And candidates of color, Francis included, still hear about the incident when they come to campus.

So at Oneonta, there’s an added urgency to the questions now being asked at many institutions. Administrators wonder: How can we convince a diverse group of faculty that ours is a welcoming environment? Professors already on campus ask: How honest should we be when wooing candidates of color? And everyone wants to know: Once we’ve managed to recruit underrepresented professors, how do we keep them around? The issues at Oneonta may be particularly complex, but the situation there contains lessons relevant to diversification efforts everywhere.

A Department Steps In

Robert Compton, chair of Oneonta’s department of Africana and Latino studies, awoke in the middle of the night to a phone call. A fellow faculty member was on the line, bearing news of Francis’s arrest. His newest professor, Compton soon learned, had been charged with resisting arrest and obstructing governmental administration, both misdemeanors punishable by up to a year in jail. She was also slapped with four traffic tickets and ended up with a large bruise on her arm. Her car sat at the impound lot, uneaten Thai food rotting in the front seat.

Compton and his colleagues in the department scrambled to locate Francis. Kathleen O’Mara, a white professor of history and Africana Studies who is known to keep bail money from her own pocket ready for faculty and students, got out of bed and drove to a number of police stations. (Oneonta is a city of about 14,000 people, but it has five police jurisdictions.)

By that time, Francis had already been set free. She had appeared before a judge, who set her bail at $2,500. Francis told him that she only had $200 in her pocket, $40 in her checking account, and a couple of hundred dollars left on a credit card. She wouldn’t receive her first paycheck from the university until the end of September. The judge accepted the $200 she had on hand, and Francis avoided having to sit in jail until her court trial toward the end of September.

The next day, Francis canceled her very first classes to deal with the fallout from her arrest. O’Mara loaned her $500 to get her through to her first payday. Compton, meanwhile, worked to arrange for a pay advance that covered Francis’s $1,200 attorney bill and the impound fees on her car.

Compton and O’Mara say there was never any question about helping Francis; in fact, they portray it as part of their jobs.

“Helping Leigh-Anne comes naturally to the entire department and to me,” says Compton. “The Africana and Latino Studies department is a community. Given our marginalized location in academe, as reflected in the lack of resources and respect that mainstream departments have for entities such as us, we place strong emphasis on solidarity and doing the right things to our colleagues.”

And there’s a pragmatic reason to lend a hand, Compton adds: “Given Oneonta’s continuing battles with issues of race, I want Leigh-Anne to stay here.”

But Compton says that incidents like Francis’s put him in a bit of a bind: On the one hand, he’s eager to do his part to recruit professors of color. On the other hand, he says, the university has a responsibility to be frank with candidates about the environment they’re entering. So an odd thing happens: He and other faculty members end up providing the very candidates they’re courting with cautionary stories of past run-ins with police. (One popular tale, Compton says, is that of a black male candidate who was stopped on his way to a job-interview lunch with a hiring committee. The search committee members watched the incident from the restaurant window.)

Professors of color say they walk a bit of a tightrope when talking with faculty recruits. “We encourage them to come here despite the numbers,” said R. Neville Choonoo, a South African professor of African and African-American literature. “But we have to remind them that they are living in a small, white town with very little experience communicating with people of color,” he says.

Erik Drew Fritsvold, a criminal justice professor at the University of San Diego, says being honest with candidates is an uncomfortable but essential step to building a diverse faculty.

“The institution and committee doing the hiring have a fundamental obligation to engage in a full disclosure with the potential candidate,” he says. “Even in a job market that is not so robust, let candidates know the past history of the community and law enforcement environment, so that if they do come on campus it’s not a surprise. Otherwise, the institution would be culpable for not being honest.”

So what can Oneonta do to help make the sale? Professors at the university tend to focus on two options. The first is simple: Offer underrepresented faculty what O’Mara describes as “combat pay.” As Choonoo puts it: “You’ve got to make it worth their while financially.”

Salary is one way of getting at the problem. It’s something Oneonta is trying, according to Hal Legg, the university’s director of communications. Legg notes that the institution recently invested $500,000 to increase pay for 48 of 90 assistant professors and 27 of 98 associate professors.

But that program doesn’t focus specifically on underrepresented faculty. In any case, “combat pay” can take other forms. For example, some faculty members at Oneonta have suggested that faculty of color receive housing stipends so they can live in neighboring communities that are more diverse.

The other frequently-discussed concept is cluster hiring. Proponents argue that by hiring not one, but many professors in a given department or discipline, Oneonta could help build critical masses of diverse scholars, creating small scholarly communities that help strengthen recruitment and retention efforts.

The college has made some forays into cluster hiring, says Legg; they just haven’t borne fruit. “Although we haven’t been met with success, we certainly haven’t ruled it out.”

Ultimately, professors say, attracting faculty of color is a sort of chicken-or-egg challenge. “You’re not going to get people with excellent qualifications,” Choonoo says, “where there’s no social network.”

A President Looks for Answers

Creating that social network is slow going. In the 2012-13 academic year, the university doubled the number of temporary pre-doctoral dissertation fellows of color per year, from one to two. The campus is still without an African-American male professor.

Improving those numbers is a task that falls to Kleniewski, the university’s president. Kleniewski joined the institution in 2008, but she sounds emotional when she speaks of the 1992 “black list” incident, and she says she was “disturbed” by Francis’s encounter with police. She admits that her institution has had a troubled history with race relations, but says she has been attempting to emphasize recruiting more diverse faculty and students.

“We’re not trying to sweep things under the rug,” she says. “It’s about educating people and assisting. That’s just me, the mushy liberal talking here.”

Kleniewski points to a number of steps the campus has taken to create a more welcoming environment for underrepresented students and faculty. Many are attempts to provoke discussion and inclusion on campus. Last year, for example, she organized a commemoration of the “black list” incident. Oneonta paid $30,000 to Cornel West to come and speak.

Every year, the university holds a “common read”—in which all students are asked to read one text—that tackles topics of diversity, she says. “It’s about taking something that hurtful and shameful about the past and turning it into something that we can all learn from.”

Then there are the attempts to tackle specific fears of racial profiling. Kleniewski has initiated weekly meetings between the campus chief of police and the City of Oneonta’s police chief. She’s held open forums on race and policing, though some faculty say they wish those events were better-publicized or more-widely attended. Another open forum is in the planning stages now.

Other discussions with police have emerged from a partnership between the university, the NAACP, and the City of Oneonta Community Relations and Human Relations Commission. An academic dean and two faculty members serve on the commission, which aims to make the community more welcoming in general.

When it comes to the hard process of hiring, though, the university is still looking for the winning formula. The first challenge, Legg says, is just getting more candidates of color to apply. To that end, Oneonta’s provost now requires each request for a new tenure-track position to include a plan to advertise in venues with a diversity focus, such as Insight Into Diversity.

“Our applicant pool for faculty positions has become more diverse,” Legg says. “The percentage of non-white faculty also has increased. While it’s too soon to attribute this directly to any of the changes we’ve initiated in the past year or two, the trend is certainly encouraging.”

Still, it’s clear that many faculty members want the institution to go further, either by restarting cluster-hiring efforts, providing housing stipends, or establishing a legal-defense fund for faculty who find themselves in predicaments like Francis’s.

“It’s difficult,” Kleniewski says. “We are making good progress, but we have these counter examples that pop up and tell us we have a long way to go.”

And it’s frustrating, she says, because “we have a good climate on campus”—a climate that often gets obscured. “Once people get here and start working, they usually like it here,” she says. “I think Leigh-Anne seems to like it here, and I’m hoping that we can keep her despite her unwelcoming experience.”

A Professor Picks Up the Pieces

Francis’s encounter with the police was not exactly a warm “welcome to Oneonta,” says William Schebaum, her attorney. “I don’t know how that’s going to sit with her as she tries to fit into the community,” he says.

After the incident, turning her attention back to teaching and research was a challenge. She said she had to temper her emotions as she first faced her students and colleagues. “I still had to prepare for classes, do a good job, and be nice to my overwhelmingly white students,” Francis says. “I still have to be a likeable and congenial person. I couldn’t sink into depression or be seething with rage over this. I have to be as engaging and approachable as any average white faculty member.”

She got her car from the impound lot after a couple of weeks, but with her license suspended, she couldn’t drive. So she has often relied on colleagues to get rides to work; other times she sits at the bus stop with students.

In November, good news arrived on the legal front: Each misdemeanor charge was dismissed, and Francis pled guilty to the minor traffic violations.

Months later, though, she is “still shaken” by the incident. “All the status and prestige of being a professor was stripped from me.” Francis says. “I still do not feel safe around the police. I make sure I don’t do anything to attract their attention.”

The biggest news since Francis arrived in Oneonta has nothing to do with the police. She’s now a mother: Her wife, who is on maternity leave, recently gave birth to twin sons, Langston and Rustin. Francis’s colleagues in the Africana and Latino studies department have continued to be hugely supportive, she says, helping out with childcare and stopping by with meals.

The professor says she’s grateful for their attempts to make her family feel more at home. The town, Schebaum says, will soon forget all about the saga: “There’s no permanent impact.” And caring for twins makes the relative security of a tenure-track position more attractive than ever.

So Francis has no shortage of reasons to try and make a go of it in Oneonta. Will she stay? She won’t say.

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  • It should be borne in mind that it is illegal for a school to hire, house, or set pay levels for faculty in a way that discriminates on the basis of race, ethnicity, or sex. There is no "diversity" exception to Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. More here: http://www.nas.org/articles/A_Half-Dozen_Push-Backs_for_Faculty_Hiring_Committee_Meetings

    Roger Clegg 2 days ago
  • This situation sounds like it is solely a reflection of Francis' creation. She made the wrong decision in several cases. And then she played the "professor card" to try to get special treatment. Should anyone feel sorry for her or say she is somehow oppressed because she is a minority or a female? No. I seriously doubt if this case would have registered on your radar if a white man had the same experience. To say that minorities or females deserve to get special treatment when they make a serious of bad decisions is ridiculous, except to those who support minority privilege or female privilege.

    D Lu 2 days ago
  • "Practice and Performance: Teaching Urban Literature at the Less than Liberal Arts"http://wp.me/p4mdJC-Ex

    A. L. 2 days ago
  • Leigh-Anne Francis might be a terrific historian and educator, or have the potential to be, but we don't hear much about that. It seems that SUNY Oneonta is more concerned with identity politics than with academics. A black lesbian--jackpot! Several departments of ethnicity mentioned. Are there any academic disciplines? Is "excellence" now defined as "diversity"? No wonder America is in decline.

  • We can all agree - Leigh-Anne Francis included - that locking the door was the "wrong move."

    But what I suspect most people who may comment here don't understand is what it's like to be arrested while black - let alone "while black and gender-nonconforming." It is - of course - a terrifying experience, in ways that many people wouldn't understand.

    And honestly, she played the "professor" card most likely so she wouldn't be seen as a "thug" or even "a thug from out of town." And Philip - she's been a teacher at Oneonta for less than a year, and the events of this article happened *before* her classes had began. So yeah, it's going to be an article about race, gender presentation, and sexuality. In as much as it's "about" her sexuality in that it mentions she has a wife.

    It's a story about being arrested - and that's a different experience for black people & white people, for gender-conforming people and non-gender-conforming people.

  • Geoffrey, you say the story is about getting arrested, but the title says it is a story about "diversity," and the discussion of Oneonta and its policies is "diversity" focused. My concern is that "diversity" has replaced excellence. In some institutions "excellence" has been redefined as diversity. Even worse, "diversity" means differences in gender, race, sexual preferences, religion, national origin, etc., but not--definitely not--diversity of opinion.

  • This isn't about discrimination. She was speeding, had 'forgotten' to pay a ticket, and expected her 'status and prestige' get her a break. The same thing happened to me as a PhD. student back in the 70's, and I was a clean-cut white male driving a nicer-than-average car. Was I profiled? No, I made an improper lane change, and hadn't paid a ticket back home when on break from grad school. Back then, no one expected the department to assist you. In fact, I got called on the carpet by the department chair. Quit trying to blow this out of proportion and make it what it isn't.

    Tex Mexico 1 day ago
  • @PhilipCarl Salzman- if you are interested in learning more about the college's academic offerings, just check this link: http://www.oneonta.edu/home/academics-depts.asp
    I don't think anyone is equating diversity with excellence, but it is great to see that at least some universities recognize the importance of faculty and staff diversity, as well as academic options that include a focus on ethnicity.

    Vanessa Luna about 24 hours ago
  • @D Lu and Tex Mexico- You are both missing the point of the article, which is not that minorities or females deserve "special treatment" but rather, that minorities are systematically discriminated against and that this type of thing happens far more often to minorities than to whites. Racial profiling exists; studies analyzing data from the Department of Justice and local law enforcement agencies have shown that minorities are more likely to be stopped, to be searched, and to be arrested than whites. Tex Mexico- just because you may have had the pleasure of receiving a ticket from law enforcement doesn't mean that racial profiling isn't real.

    Vanessa Luna about 24 hours ago
  • To V. Luna,
    If this article is about minorites being systematically discriminated against, then Ms. Francis's experience in Oneonta is not a very solid example. I concede that discrimination is systemic in many parts of the US. But in this case she was: A) speeding at a rate which will get you pulled over in just about any small-medium town; B) her license had been suspended for over 10 years (and how she obtained another is not clear); C) if she ignored the previous summons, a bench warrant may have been issued and the the troopers perhaps did not know what for; D) when they followed procedure and asked her to get out of the car, she locked her doors??? Please tell me where in this whole storyline is there evidence of discrimination?

    Earl Bothwell about 21 hours ago
  • This article is astonishing and deserves national attention for all the wrong reasons. 

    I’m not sure if people read anymore, but this article is highly manipulative, and if you actually read Francis as a person, an individual, and not an identity, than you’ll see no one is at fault but Francis, SUNY Oneonta, and the writer of this article. The good news is in my “overwhelmingly” black town, my AA students would laugh at the entitlement and arrogance of Francis. The good news is if Francis represents a minority group, it is the academic one, the next generation of African American students, in my interpretation, don’t want to be thought of as victims. Maybe because they have been victims, unlike Francis, and know how to channel the energy. So, please folks, don’t read Francis’s invitation to victimhood as a universal one in minority communities.

    The utter comfort and willingness of Francis to slide into the role of victimhood, and for people, like Veronica, the article’s author, SUNY and Chronicle to recognize her as that, is utterly astonishing and, dare I say it, prejudice. Please cite the one piece of evidence in which Francis was racially profiled. There was no racial profiling, there was only Francis “expecting” to be racially profiled. 

    Read this article carefully: She was begged not to go out. Why? Because she has knowingly not had a license for 12 years. She gets pulled over for going 11 miles over a 30 mph speed limit. Over a thirds faster than she should have. She hands the officer her license. It takes a while. Why does it take a while and why is she paranoid? She knows her license has been revoked and thus she resists arrest by locking her doors. She then cancels her first day of her new job because of something she says “got lost in the mail”? (I would be fired immediately) And essentially everyone: the judge, the university, her fellow faculty, and a “journalist” come to her rescue for a crime she clearly knowingly committed? And Francis and SUNY Oneonta want combat pay? 

    EVERYONE is terrified of the police. I would have called 911 and told the operator what was happening and called my husband/wife/anyone at that moment. No one wants to deal with police these days.

    Combat pay for living and working in Oneonta NY? For the US military in Afghanistan and Iraq, when bullets are being shot, mines are in the ground, soldiers get 250 dollars a month. Francis and Oneonta want to give likely more that that to professor in the Catskills? Literally everyone in Oneonta should be ashamed.

    Teach where I teach, I’m not asking for combat pay because it is a privilege to teach. I don’t think of it as a power trip as Francis does. I don’t think of it as “all the status and prestige” as Francis does. I don’t play the professor card. Who buys that? I think of it as a service to my fellow underserved Americans in a town where the median income is 33,000 dollars for a family. What’s the median income in Oneonta? It’s 40,000 dollars. Here’s a link to the arts in Oneonta:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneonta,_New_York. “The Arts”. When the arts is a section of the town you live in on Wikipedia, you don’t deserve combat pay. “Combat Pay” Francis? Combat Pay Choonoo? Combat Pay, SUNY-Oneonta? You should be ashamed.

    You’ve got to start from scratch about the houseing stipend Francis wants now? In my experience living as a minority in a minority neighborhood, it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than living elsewhere. Please explain who deserves the stipend again.

    So, in closing, what wrong was brought upon Leigh Anne Francis other than ignoring her wife’s pleas and driving without a license? This article does nothing but show how the town, the law, and the university bent over backwards for this person in a way that would not have if she weren’t a minority. This does nothing but show the absolute and staggeringly disappointed view of a professor who is desperate to be a victim yet wants nothing more than “status and prestige”. Bad idea to print this article; it truly deserves national attention for all the wrong reasons.

    turn bull about 20 hours ago
  • The takeaway? Pay your tickets, stay within the speed limit, and, if pulled over, cooperate with law enforcement.

    Leslie Hope about 20 hours ago
  • I've had numerous encounters with police officers, and unless they were my friends who were off-duty, then they were all bad. I've never been arrested and so of course I have no criminal record. My first ever encounter with a police officer involved me sitting in his backseat and his asking me what "you niggers" we're doing in the neighborhood. Of course, it was my own neighborhood, and my friends and I had broken no laws by sitting in my dad's parked car next to the playground.

    Ever since then, whether it's been my fault (violating traffic laws) or being pulled over repeatedly to be asked where I was going (driving while Black), I've never been treated as anything other than a stupid criminal by police.

    The point is, Dr. Francis wasn't saying the equivalent of, "don't arrest me, I'm important!" when she told the arresting officer she was a professor, she was saying, "please don't hurt or humiliate me, I'm not a nigger!"

    It's a difference some of you will never be able to understand.

    Maurice Dolberry about 20 hours ago
  • The arrogance of yours is that you don't think other people live in dire fear of authority....They do, you are not alone.

    turn bull about 19 hours ago
  • ...and just like that, you erased racism, race, and my entire set of experiences. I have to assume you did so exressly in order to prove what I wrote: It's a difference some of you will never be able to understand. 

    And I'm arrogant?

    Maurice Dolberry about 11 hours ago
  • Only an idiot drives with a suspended license. Period.

    As some commenters have suggested, this is a story about privilege. Maybe I shopuld share my little sob story. I am walking away from academia after seven years spent earning my Ph.D. and 14 years trying in vain to land a tenure track position. In all that time, I received exactly two interviews for full-time positions. I held a one-year replacement position and the rest of the time I've been relegated to the adjunct pool. I have been told--by hiring authorities--that they "wanted the right social mix" in their department and "let's be real, if you were an Hispanic female, I'd give you a contract right now." I am not, and so in that instance he offered me adjunct work instead, which I took because the alternative was unemployment. The one non-tenure year-long position I did receive was not renewed because--my boss said--"You are too old (at 42) to relate to the students." As a grad student I heard my religion described by a female professor as "necrophiliac" and when I raised a hand to protest, she said, "Excuse me, you're a male, you can't speak."

    Believe me, in academic social science today, being white and male is not exactly a golden ticket. 

    I have also been stopped by the police several times in traffic incidents and paid my tickets. And while walking at night I was stopped frisked three times. I've had police hold a gun on me when they wrongly thought I was trespassing on a rich person's property.

    No, I feel no sympathy at all for this person. 

    Christoph DeHaven about 2 hours ago
  • I've been arrested, twice, both times in a foreign county, once at gunpoint. So it is fatuous to say that white faculty don't know what it's like. What did I do? I put up my hands, stood up against a wall while I was searched, tried to answer the questions in a foreign language, fully and politely, reminded myself that the fourth and fourteenth amendments didn't apply, and waited for the event to work itself out. And it did. Afterwards, I asked the consulate if my treatment was in any way unusual, and was told it was not, and I would have no grounds for complaint. Now it's a funny story I tell. 

    Driving on a suspended license, after failure to appear, and then resisting arrest will get you jailed anywhere, not merely in rural New York. To try to insinuate otherwise is obnoxious stereotyping, and distinctly ironic, given the subject.

    Gerard Harbison about 2 hours ago

 

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